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Sillypup5
11-23-2008, 04:57 PM
This is going to be long, but I just have a lot to say on this...so if you stick it out, thanks! If not, I totally understand.. lmao

I have had a very emotional, tiring and frustrating week. What started it all, was last Sunday, or Monday (I can't remember what day it was now, it's all a blur) Brandt was sitting at the dining room table, eating his supper. Not moving, not being loud, or jumping around... Just sitting there, with his back to the rest of the house. The dining room table is about 15 feet from Milo and Kiwi's cages. I was sitting on the couch eating my supper, which is directly beside Milo's cage.

Anyway..

Milo decided it would be a good idea to fly accross the living room, right over my head, land on the back of Brandt's neck and pierce the top (in the cartilage) of his ear. Both his upper and lower mandibles went RIGHT THROUGH my poor kid's ear. It happened VERY quickly, I didn't even have time to throw down my fork, get up and run over 12 feet to where Brandt was sitting to get this bird off him. I pried Milo's beak off his right ear.. he had a grip in Brandt's hair with his feet, so while I was trying to get his feet loose (all in like 0.5 seconds) he latched onto Brandt's left ear! Only Milo's upper went through that time, but man.. That poor kid was just SCREAMING. I pried him off that ear, and he latched onto my finger and stayed there like that until I got him back to his cage, pried his beak off my finger and put him in his cage.

Brandt's right ear was bleeding quite good, afterall it had a big hole right through it. So i went to tend to his wounds.

Then I sat down, in total panic mode and wrote a LONG email to the lady who sold him to the lady I got him from asking if she would be willing to take him back to find him a home with no little kids, and preferrably no men as I was told by her that Milo was severely abused in his first home by his male owner, and therefor hates all men/boys.

I thought the first couple times he attacked Brandt that we could work with him. But this time, he actually flew to the other side of the house to bite him! No warning, he wasn't provoked in ANY way. So clearly, keeping Brandt away from the bird's side of the living room is no longer enough. I cant' have my child living in fear in his own house, and I can't just tell him he has to deal with getting his ears bit off. So sadly, and this is just KILLING me, Milo has to go.

He is still here..

I couldn't get ahold of that lady. So in my panic I emailed the lady that owns the parrot store that I know is friends with this lady thinking she could help. Well, she did some digging around (the parrot community in Alberta is very small, and it is becoming apparent to me that everyone dealing with birds knows everyone) and she found out exactly who and where and when Milo really came from and passed the info onto me.

The first part of what I was told about Milo was true. He was bought at a pet store in Edmonton by a french couple. he did attack the husband. But not because he was abused.. but because he is very much a one person bird and defends his 'mate' relentlessly. They tried to keep him, but he just kept on attacking, until one day, he almost took his 'dads' ear off, it ended up with stitches and some reconstructive surgery.

So they got in touch with their very good friend at a rescue in the same city and she took Milo in. She had him for 2 years, until she found what she thought was the perfect home with the lady I got my lovebirds from. She adopted him to them for free, just asking that they paid his vet bill, which was only about $50. She also gave him with a large cage. They signed a legal adoption contract stating that they can never give away or sell the bird, if they can't keep him, he was to go directly back to the rescue.

Well, it turns out they turned around and SOLD him for $500 just a couple weeks after they adopted him! They had also sometime during all this removed his band, and told the buyers that they didn't know his age or where he came from and didn't provide any papers with him. They weren't at all truthful with the buyer, told her that Milo was severely abused and neglected in his first home, which is why he hates/attacks men. They never ever told the rescue lady that they rehomed Milo, and in fact, they sent her pictures that *I* had sent to them saying that they just took them off their camera, and Milo was still with them and doing well!! (that's later in the story tho.. sorry got off track!)

So then the lady who bought him, and he didn't even get sold with the cage he came with, they sold him to her with a crappy small hagen parrot cage...

He ended up attacking her teenaged son and husband. She didn't tell me much info at all about Milo when she offered him to me.. Just that he dislikes men, and is otherwise a very cuddly, sweet bird. Which he was/is.. to ME. She didn't know how old he was, where he came from, nothing.

I eventually found out, as I had posted a couple months ago, that Milo infact came from the same lady who I got the lovebirds from, and I was so excited that I could finally find out his history, age, etc. Well, it turns out all I got were lies.

So I have been working with this lady from the pet store, and now the lady from the rescue all week trying so hard to find Milo the perfect home, where he will not be passed around anymore. I HATE it when people play 'pass the birdy' and I feel so awful for resorting to rehoming myself.

If Milo were biting/attacking ME, then it would be a completely different situation. But him attacking my 8 yo son, I can't have brandt sit there and take these bites while we figure out a way to work with Milo. I can not do that to him, and it isn't fair to Milo to be locked up all day when Brandt is around either. Milo is so stressed this week, he has lost 8g in body weight, and he is just NOT a happy bird right now.

So the lady from the rescue is asking one more family if they would want to adopt him, she does not hold anything back when telling them about him and his aggression. If they don't take him, then she will take him back and will never adopt him out again, he will be at the rescue for life. She was in tears just as much, if not more than I was all day yesterday while we were talking on the phone.

So I will probably be going to Edmonton this week sometime to take Milo to her. if this other family wants to take him in, they will do so through her anyway, as they are 5 hours north of Edmonton and I am 2.5 hours southeast of there.

It is breaking my heart just thinking about this, but I know it has to be done. It is the best thing for everyone involved, especially Brandt and Milo. I have been SO picky with where I am willing to take him, and it resulted in me getting into contact with the lady from the rescue who knows Milo very well. I think this is meant to be, that he be back with her.

So anyway, that is the story. Thanks for staying with me and reading this if you made it. I feel so horrible, I feel like I am giving up on Milo, which I vowed not to do. But Brandt just can't be subjected to this anymore. I hope you guys understand. :disb

Sillypup5
11-23-2008, 05:07 PM
Oh right, sorry I forgot to say that the long email I had written to the lovebird breeder got bounced back to me, so that was why I wrote to the store owner.

Mom of JoJo
11-23-2008, 05:35 PM
Thanks for investing the time in this email.

I think you are doing the right thing. As much as we love our birds, you're right, it's not good for your son, or Milo. You didn't have a complete history, and clearly Milo has a long history of being aggressive and violent in this way.

I know the woman at the rescue....We are in close contact with her. She is DEVOTED to her birds and she cares for them well. Although be prepared, there are a LOT of birds in her home. However, there are no kids in her home.

It must be so disappointing for you, since you love & care for Milo. But you're right...your child needs to be in a safe home...it was an unprovoked and violent act.

You're doing the right thing.

Sillypup5
11-23-2008, 05:41 PM
It is Linda from Safe Haven you know? She seems like a VERY nice, caring lady. I feel totally comfortable taking Milo to her, and I can tell already just from our phone conversations how much she loves all of her birds.

Thank you for telling me I am doing what is right in this, because I am not so sure. I feel so guilty I can't even describe it. And now that I know, it is only another day of Milo being here with me, I am a mess. I knew it was coming.. but now it is more real, and it hurts so bad.

Mom of JoJo
11-23-2008, 05:59 PM
Actually, I don't know Linda from Safe Haven. I assumed you were talking about Louise from the Edmonton Parrot Rescue. Who knew, there are several rescues for parrots in Edmonton! :)

If you want, I can give you Louise's contact information....you're right, we're a tight group of parrot owners in Alberta....(someone knows everyone...even if there are differences in philosophy). You could call Louise, explain your situation and she can give you her opinion about Safe Haven. She may be good friends with Linda or have information about her rescue. This way you can feel like you getting all the information about potential homes/connections for Milo.

I'm not trying to complicate the process, but we were dealing with a breeder in Edmonton recently. She was very nice to me on the phone, visited our home, and but then later tried to pull a fast one on us. We've made amends, sort of, but not without playing hard ball, ya know.

I think it's important that Milo goes elsewhere. I know that you're an experienced parrot owner and are willing to put in the time...However, your priority is your son, and that's only right. It may be different if Brandt was 18 and not living at home...but that's not where you are in life.

The only other option to consider is getting Milo's wings clipped. This way he would be less mobile for attacks. And brandt may have more time to react. That's the only other suggestion I'd have.

LeRoy's owner
11-23-2008, 05:59 PM
Megan, I am so sorry that all of this has happened. Please don't be so hard on yourself. You are just being a good mom, no, an excellent mom. You are not giving up on Milo, you are standing up for your son.
It sounds like Milo has had a rough history. At least he already knows this lady and he will be comfortable with her. Please try to pull yourself together so that Brandt and Milo don't pick up on all of those emotions. I know it is hard but you ARE doing the right thing and I think some where in the near future when you are comfortably sitting at home, you will realize that there is less stress in your life because you don't have to be worried about Milo attacking Brandt. There is enough stress in raising a son. You are doing great. Hang in there. I am sending good thoughts and wishes your way......connie

Sillypup5
11-23-2008, 06:19 PM
Milo's wings are clipped, but he can still make it quite far. The night of the attack I took off a few more feathers on his wings, even taking off 2 secondaries, and he can STILL fly about 10 feet. I will not take off any more, as that would not be humane. I don't like going into the secondaries at all, but it was necessary at the time.

I feel comfortable with Safe Haven. Afterall, this lady knows Milo well as he has already lived there for 2 years of his life.

Thanks Connie.. I am trying.

Mom of JoJo
11-23-2008, 06:22 PM
I think you've done everything you can to make things work with Milo. You're making informed, well-thought out decisions. There isn't anything that's impulsive here.
You're doing all you can for Milo.

I think you're doing the right thing. It's unfortunate, and I know you'll miss him. But it's what has to be done. Don't feel guilty, it's what has to be done, and it will be better for Milo and Brandt.

Sillypup5
11-23-2008, 06:29 PM
Thanks Melissa. :)

I know deep down it is for the best interests of everyone involved.

Kiwisoo
11-24-2008, 03:09 PM
Megan---you did the right thing. As a single mom myself, I know how hard it can be. Milo will be fine and you will always know that you gave him love and a great life while he was with you. He has clearly had a tough life and you cannot blame yourself for anything that has happened with him. You did the best you could for him---no one could have done more.
Perhaps he will finally land in a home where he can be the "only bird". We had to rehome one of our dogs a few years ago when she suddenly became vicious and started attacking the other two dogs, after having her five years. We adopted her as a rescue, had her five years, and then, BOOM! She wanted to clear the other two dogs out of the house entirely....after she had peacefully lived with them. I placed her with a wonderful rescue organization, who found her a home where she was the "only" dog, and she did just fine.

Hopefully, Milo will have the same opportunity.

Jinta
11-24-2008, 05:58 PM
What a story!
Hope Milo soon find a good last 'home for ever'.

Sillypup5
11-24-2008, 11:47 PM
Megan---you did the right thing. As a single mom myself, I know how hard it can be. Milo will be fine and you will always know that you gave him love and a great life while he was with you. He has clearly had a tough life and you cannot blame yourself for anything that has happened with him. You did the best you could for him---no one could have done more.
Perhaps he will finally land in a home where he can be the "only bird". We had to rehome one of our dogs a few years ago when she suddenly became vicious and started attacking the other two dogs, after having her five years. We adopted her as a rescue, had her five years, and then, BOOM! She wanted to clear the other two dogs out of the house entirely....after she had peacefully lived with them. I placed her with a wonderful rescue organization, who found her a home where she was the "only" dog, and she did just fine.

Hopefully, Milo will have the same opportunity.

Thanks Linda. It's not the other birds he has a problem with, it's the extra people in a home. Once he falls in love with his 'mommy' then everyone else is supposed to leave!

I just got home from work, adn went to let them out. And Milo started doing his little kissy thing and acting all sweet, I just started bawling. :disb This is my last night with him!!!

mobetta
11-25-2008, 01:02 AM
Awwwww Megan Im so sorry this has happened ((((( hugs )))))

Emily
11-25-2008, 03:17 AM
Aw I'm so sorry for you Meg. I agree tho its the best thing for you and Milo. I can't believe what a liar that one lady was, geesh, the nerve of some people!

Kiwisoo
11-25-2008, 12:02 PM
The woman was a liar who ended up hurting Milo, yet again, when the smoke cleared. He must be so confused. But, clearly, he needs to be an "only bird". Best wishes to you, Milo. I hope you find your true, forever family....or maybe just one special person.

And Megan, "you did good". He had your best. Know that and hang in there.

Sillypup5
11-25-2008, 02:28 PM
Well, the countdown is on :( 1/2 an hour until we leave. My gut is just tied in knots, I couldn't sleep last night.. it's going to be a rough day :( I'm sure I will feel better when I finally work up the nerve to walk away and leave him with Linda and Vic..

And then going to meet Melissa, her hubby and Jojo will be the highlight of the day!!!

Janette
11-25-2008, 09:26 PM
It will all work out in the end you know.

Sillypup5
11-26-2008, 07:21 AM
Well, Milo is in Edmonton.. and I am home. Finally walked in the door just after 1:00am. It was very hard leaving Milo. I broke down a couple times while I was still in the house with him.. and then when I was putting Kiwi back in the truck I just lost it. Brandt came around to my side of the truck, gave me a big hug and starting crying too. I had to sit in the truck like that for a few minutes before I could drive. And then, I made it 1/2 a block before I had to pull over and cry some more :( It completely broke my heart leaving him there.

I'll post about the rest of my day, including pictures in a different thread tomorrow, it was the happier part of the day!

Right now, I need to go to bed. Thank you everyone for your support this past week on this issue, it really means a lot to me!

JonnyWoo
11-26-2008, 10:58 AM
Feel so bad for you Meg...you def did the right thing though..

Holly-Noelle
11-26-2008, 03:19 PM
Megan, How are Brandt's ears doing? Are they healing up okay? I hope he won't be bird shy after his ordeal, that had to be very scary for him when it was happening.

Milo will be fine and you did what was necessary for the welfare of him and your son. Like you said your son must come first in a situation like that, and his compassion for you in a most difficult time shows his strength of character.